Wednesday, February 04, 2009

Winter Wickedness

There is a huge move in the media, education and Hollywood (and now, the White House and Congress) to present homosexuality as just a perfectly normal alternative lifestyle. There is nothing normal about the upcoming "Winter Wickedness" festival in Columbus Ohio. This is really sick and truly disturbing. These people need serious psychological help!

12 comments:

Jason said...

I think most Homosexuals would argue that your connecting their loving relationships with their partners equal to this kind of ridiculously extreme sexual activity is way off base and offensive as not all homosexuals agree or conduct in this kind of wickedness.

But that would at least be their argument. Obviously, from my own opinion, these kinds of practices come out of the idea that "everything is permitted". We have most definitely moved ourselves into a Roman-Pagan society where we will do the most abominable acts and treat it like its a normal thing that anyone can do without moral recourse. I think, personally, that includes homosexual activity. But our society has slowly deluded themselves into thinking that the above argument I mentioned is perfectly valid.

Dennis said...

Jason,

If "most Homosexuals would argue that "connecting their loving relationships with their partners equal to this kind of ridiculously extreme sexual activity is way off base and offensive" why don't they say so?

Has any prominent Gay/lesbian group ever recommended psychological help for those who engage in the types of sick activities that occur in homosexual celebrations like Winter Wickedness or the Folsom Street Fair?

It really doesn't surprise me that homosexual groups won't condemn these behaviors, but it does surprise me that the media won't at least distinguish between the supposed "normal" loving homosexual couples which they promote, and homosexuals who engage in such sick practices as golden showers, rainbow showers, fisting, animal sex (simulated or actual) or various S&M "games." These people are sick and need help--and as long as our politicians, media, and schools are too cowardly to take a stand, the people who need the help will not get it.

Jason said...

Why don't they say so? Because they don't read your blog. You restructured my statement. I said if you went to a homosexual and connected their relationships with the Winter Wickedness deal, then they would question how you make that large of a leap.

grayforthisone said...

Honestly, what matters if each person involved is a consenting adult?

As a libertarian I do not care what 2 20 year olds do to each other. If they come to me to seek help I will provide it but otherwise Sunday school taught me to leave the judgments to God.

Dennis said...

grayforthisone,

Doesn't it seem a bit strange to you that while our society constantly preaches against such health hazards as obesity and smoking (and even passes laws against the latter), it actually PROMOTES homosexuality, which includes anal sex (which spreads HIV/AIDS)and in extreme--but increasingly common--cases, it includes behaviors like deficating, urinating or vomiting on someone; or simulation (?)of abuse and torture?

I'm not necessarily saying we should pass laws against such behaviors, but I am strongly opposed to forcing kids to be exposed to brainwashing in public schools that:

1) tramples over the convictions of many Muslims, Jews and Christians who believe that homosexual practice is wrong,

2) treats all homosexuality as if it were the same, and

3) which is increasingly trying to suppress all opposing viewpoints, especially through hate crimes legislation which, in other countries, has actually resulted in pastors being fined and jailed!

I would think that a good libertarian would agree with this.

grayforthisone said...

Dennis,

I see several topics that you are unhappy with, none of which really relate to this event in any way. You mention society promoting this; well, I had never even heard of this "winter wickedness" thing until it showed up on my WND news feed. It seems to me that if anything the Christians are spreading the word about this event far more than the people participating in it are. That bothers me.

As for smoking and obesity, I'm against that preaching and outlawing by society as well. As an adult I should be allowed to do whatever I want with my body that I see fit - regardless of if it is puff on a cigarette, eat a trans fat saturated burger, worship Mohammad, worship Christ, run 10 miles a day, or have anal sex. I don't do any of those except the worshiping Christ part but I am well aware of how easy it is to lump worship practices in when you start dictating to people how to live their lives. After all, aren't some catholic church monestaries famous for self flagellation? Talk about an easy leap there.

All sex spreads HIV, which is why heterosexuals are currently more likely to be carriers of the disease than homosexuals. The only protection against AIDS is abstinence and in lesser form protected sex. This is what I teach my children when I home school them. I don't tell them that anal sex has higher transmission rates because frankly they don't need to know that part - it creates a false sense of security that since they aren't having anal sex like those damned dirty homos then they won't catch the disease.

Your public school rant has absolutely nothing to do with this event from what I can tell. They aren't holding this event in a school. A bunch of people who hold views I disagree with and practice acts I find abhorrent have rented out part of a hotel to talk about and act on those views. The same could be said for the democratic convention or any number of religious groups. As long as they don't involve kids in this I fail to see how it harms me and therefore why I should be concerned.

Dennis said...

grayforthisone,

Please re-read my post. I did not say that society was promoting the Winter Wickedness festival.

You completely lost me on your second paragraph. I never said anything about dictating how people live their lives, but even if I did, what does that have o do with worship practices and self-flagellation?

Regarding your third paragraph: Studies I've seen show that anal sex and IV drug use is by FAR the leading cause of the spread of HIV/AIDS. Even some of the heterosexual AIDS came from anal sex. I have no interest in telling you how to teach your kids. My concern is when public schools promote homosexual lifestyles. In my view, the public school system has absolutely no business taking sides on the homosexual issue. But by promoting homosexual behavior, they are promoting a lifestyle that is just as bad, if not much worse, than obesity or smoking which they rightfully discourage. Doesn't that seem a bit inconsistent?

Rainbow Red said...

I honestly think there are more important issues in this world than whether or not a group of people, which consisted of consenting adults for that matter,rent rooms in a hotel and do their thing behind closed doors. From what I heard the hotel only had 3 open rooms...3...which means that hotel, made revenue which it may have struggled to get in the middle of winter.

As for linking Winter Wickedness to Homosexuals is completely wrong. You are mistaken to lump the entire gay community together, there are heterosexuals that enjoy BDSM.

I don't feel it is any of your business or anyone else to dictated how others should live their lives.

And as for your comment on "has any prominent gay/lesbian group ever recommended psychological help for those who engage in the types of sick activities that occur" your answer is probably not, cause what they do with their time is their business. Just because its strange to you doesn't mean it's wrong. What happened to America being the land of the FREE?

These people are not killing anyone. Most of them keep their BDSM play very secritive they don't brodcast or preach to others...they just want do do what they want to do. SO why don't you leave them alone...

Quite worrying about what a group of 400 people did behind closed doors.

Dennis said...

Rainbow Red wrote,

"I honestly think there are more important issues in this world than whether or not a group of people, which consisted of consenting adults for that matter,rent rooms in a hotel and do their thing behind closed doors."

I certainly agree with you. Does that mean no one should talk about anything else?

Rainbow Red wrote,

"From what I heard the hotel only had 3 open rooms...3...which means that hotel, made revenue which it may have struggled to get in the middle of winter."

Oh, I see. I guess anything is OK as long as the hotel is making money.

Rainbow Red wrote,

As for linking Winter Wickedness to Homosexuals is completely wrong. You are mistaken to lump the entire gay community together, there are heterosexuals that enjoy BDSM.

First, I think you need to re-read my responses. I never linked Winter Wickedness to all homosexuals. In fact, one of my criticisms was that society did not make a distinction between what society imagines to be a normal loving homosexual relationship, and some of the very sick perversions that go on in events like Winter Wickedness and the Folsom Street Fair.

Second, I think heterosexuals who practice BDSM are also in need of psychological counseling.

Rainbow Red wrote,

"Just because its strange to you doesn't mean it's wrong."

It doesn't make it right either. But society itself is decadent and sick when it gets to the point where it can no longer assert that it is a mental illness for people to vomit, urinate, or defecate on others for sexual pleasure, or who enjoy inflicting pain on others (or having pain inflicted on them) for sexual pleasure, or who have actual or simulated sex with animals, etc.

One of my points was that some of these practices are really unhealthy and it is strange that society spends so much time attacking smoking and obesity, while at the same time actually promoting unhealthy homosexual practices. To just say its not of anyone's business is not a very loving or compassionate response.

Rainbow Red wrote,

"What happened to America being the land of the FREE?"

It's being stolen from us by Barack Obama and his Democratic partners in Congress, but what does that have to do with anything? (I couldn't resist).

I didn't say anything about making anything illegal. I didn't say anything about restricting such behavior. I wasn't even arguing for a boycott of the hotel chain. So what is your point? Do you think that America as home of the free means that we shouldn't be able to criticize behaviors we think are destructive, unhealthy and even sinful? What kind of freedom is that.

Rainbow Red wrote,

"Quite worrying about what a group of 400 people did behind closed doors."

Actually, I'm not worried about it at all. What I am worried about is the fact that society is pushing homosexuality even in our schools, without pointing out that there is an element within the homosexual community that is really in need of psychological help.

Rainbow Red said...

Well Dennis...as I already stated that there are heterosexuals that engage in this kind of activity also..so what you wrote here applies to not only the homosexual but the heterosexual community too.

Dennis wrote:
Actually, I'm not worried about it at all. What I am worried about is the fact that society is pushing homosexuality even in our schools, without pointing out that there is an element within the homosexual community that is really in need of psychological help.

So I guess we shouldn't push heterosexual activities either since there is an ELEMENT within the heterosexual community that is really in need of psychological help...

Dennis wrote:
Oh, I see. I guess anything is OK as long as the hotel is making money.

Yes, it is...because there are owners and staff that have families that need to make a living. I am sure you would rather see a group of individuals rent a hotel out for whatever they want than to see a family out on the streets...or is that not compassionate enough for you????

I am done with this topic...Winter Wickedness is over...no one died, the earth didn't melt...and life went on.

And ignorance will always prevail..

Dennis said...

Rainbow Red,

If the shoe fits some in the "heterosexual community", (and I agree with you that it does) I have no problem suggesting that they need help as well.

Since anything is OK as long as they're making money, maybe they should host a prostitutes' convention, or a pedophile convention! I obviously don't share your belief that anything is OK as long as they're making money.

"Ignorance will always prevail?" I guess when your arguments fail you can always resort to insults.

Rainbow Red said...

My argument didn't fail...point really is that your opinion differs from mine. And the event is now three days in the past...

Move on....