Friday, November 07, 2008

Forced community service

Hey, all you students who voted for Obama: Obama's new website just announced his plans
"to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year" (emphasis mine; via Hot Air).

My guess is that many students who voted for Obama liked the idea of forcing the rich to give up their money to give to students. I wonder if students will be so excited about plans to force them into community service!

I'm all for community service, but when the government starts forcing everyone to participate........well, listen carefully. The sound you hear is your freedom flushing down the hopper.

And you asked for it!


Kevin said...

I'm not entirely convinced this is a bad idea. Last I heard Israel, a democracy, required their citizens to serve in the military.

Why stop w/ college... either you pay taxes, don't take from government programs, or get a job doing something productive for the government (I'm thinking building trails, cleaning up national parks, repairing vandalism in the cities. No more free rides.

Dennis said...


Then let's reinstitute the draft as well.

But actually, I think you're on to something. I think it would be a great idea to require able bodied people who are living off the goverment (welfare, foodstamps, etc.) to earn it through community service.

For someone who just gets foodstamps, the community service might be minimal. But for an able bodied person who is unemployed and living off welfare, their "job" should be community serevice. If they don't want to do community government benefits. That might actually encourage some people to get jobs!

Dennis said...

Oh, one more thing: Can you imagine if George Bush had suggested requiring students to do community service!

I think the Left in general and the media in particular would have been absolutely livid, condemning him for an assault on freedom and civil liberties.

jazzycat said...

Just add the term "indoctrination centers" to this plan and you will better understand the purpose.

The left has been very successful with manipulation through propaganda. Why do you think so many people have bought into the man made global warming hysteria?

Kevin said...

Jazzycat... we already have public schools.

The more I think about this, the more I like this plan. We live in a society in which people are becoming increasingly selfish, self-centered, and lazy... we live in a society with disintegrating communities... why would you not want kids to be taught about giving back and helping others?

George Bush made a similar proposal in his first term, he talked about volunteering and giving back. He didn't mandate a specific # of hours, but so what... 50 hours a year... that's not even 60 minutes per week.

As far as the comparison with the draft... give me a break. The draft is not a required term of service for all citizens, it's also a substantial commitment, and it's a potentially life-threatening commitment.

I have two concers with this program: that it is executed inexpensively, and that it allows for a diverse set of choices that define "community service" that include participation in faith-based programs.

knowitall said...

When I was in school you got extra credit or credit for community service. Now people are being paid thousands of dollars for it. What happened to the volunteers? The liberal illuminati know how to waste money.

Robert said...


It isn't "volunteer" work if you're being forced to do it. The military learned that they actually got a much better product when they went to voluntary service. No matter what you call it, it's still involuntary servitude when you're required to work.

That said, it may still have some positive benefits. I'm just not certain about setting time requirements.


feedtheneed52 said...

I am dumbfounded by some comments I read.People are actually ok with the idea.I would these people where they think government will stop if this FORCED VOLUNTEER service is implemented.First it is community service,then they tell you to start watching for suspicious activity,then pretty soon you will be enforcing martial law.I can't believe we are even discussing this.America has lost all identity which our founding fathers gave it.God Bless America