Friday, April 25, 2008

Obama terrorist ties?

Imagine a terrorist fundraiser with ties to Hamas having a link on Obama's official web site. Imagine Michelle Obama listed among the "friends" of this terrorist fundraiser. Go to LGF and check it out.

12 comments:

Brent said...

McCain slavery ties?

"Facing George W. Bush in South Carolina, McCain hired Richard Quinn as his state field manager. Quinn was an editor of the neo-Confederate magazine Southern Partisan, and a frequent critic of Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandela, who he once dubbed a "terrorist." Before the primary, Quinn organized a rally of 6,000 people in support of flying the Confederate flag over the statehouse. Quinn dressed up McCain volunteers in Confederate Army uniforms as they passed fliers to the demonstrators assuring them that McCain supported the Confederate flag."

http://www.thenation.com/doc/
20060911/george_allen/4

apettythief said...

Hmmm...

Sounds like he hired someone who can organize.

Dennis said...

Brent,

Well, I'm not particularly inclined to defend John McCain. He was certainly not my first (or even second) pick for GOP candidate.

Second, if I really thought McCain was a racist, I'd probably stay home this November.

Third, the real issue with Obama is not that he failed to vet someone well enough (which may be the case with McCain and Quinn), but that Obama seems to have a history of being attached to shady--even dangerous--characters: a Hamas terrorist fundraiser, a hardcore Marxist, his racist pastor, the criminal Rezko, the Che Guevara campaigner.

How much does it take before Democrats began to wonder if there is some kind of pattern here?

vicit said...

How does John McCains hiring Richard Quinn have anything to do with Obama VERY MUCH supporting and defending:
1-Racists
2-Vicious anti-semites
3-Apostate Black-power Churches
4-Unrepentant terrorists who blew up people in the streets...

And saying things like:
1-He wanted to punch his white friend for merely empathizing with him (Obama's autobiography)
2-Calling his Grandmother a "typical white woman" (Obama's autobiography)
and
3-He would have his own grandchild killed in the womb rather than have his daughter "punished" with a baby.

No one even brought up McCain, I don't like him, but I hate racists, and Obama BEING a racist is far worse than John McCain hiring one 8 years ago. I would assume McCain has renounced the guy, while Obama just shrugs his gaffs off and says we are mean for noticing.

The new technique the left is using is typically classless, its inferring now that anyone criticizing Obama is a racist...

You are liars and you show who you belong to when you are utterly consumed and absorbed by lies.

Dennis said...

Vicit,

I'm not sure your last statement about liars is fair, but I thought everything else was right on the money.

I also loved your blog post showing how far down the road toward nazism and communism we are going:

http://indyideasinc.blogspot.com/2008/04/take-nazi-test.html

Obama or Hillary will take us even farther down that road and the Ameican Left just doesn't seem to "get it" (Or maybe they do--and that's even scarier)

vicit said...

Yeah, you're right... it had an edge to it that was unfairly harsh...

Thanks for the props. Yeah, Noah Goldberg wrote a brilliant book called 'Liberal Fascism' that obliterates the idea that the Fascism ia a "right wing" movement, and places it rightly as a Socialist/Collectivist/Social Darwinist movement.

I'm sorry for the level of vitriol, I fully understand the excitement and support of Obama's image on a very surface level, but with each passing revelation about the guy I am further ASTOUNDED at how intellectually honest liberals could possibly dismiss the VERY THINGS THIS GUY SAYS, DOES, AND folks he ASSOCIATES WITH!

They just without even blinking dismiss the elephant in the room and say things that, honestly, for me to fairly characterize, would have to sound really brutal if I were to be honest.

I'm waiting to see where the "bottom" is on this... how low can people sink just to support "their guy". At what point does someone with even the tiniest shred of decency FINALLY say "wow, he says racist and radically pro-abortion things, supports anti-semites, anti-Americans, and racists, and joins forces with guys who blow people up and express that they wish they had done more of it... maybe I should re-consider...".

They are brazen enough to think it an imposition to have to account for this stuff in real adult human language. If I could find a measured or polite way to characterize their thinking I would?

-at a loss for words-
vicit

vicit said...

heck... I could even accept something along the lines of, "yes, he's a fringe leftist who supports other radical leftists, and he's a bit of a racist and has a Socialist vision for America" BUT:

He's worth it because...
1-He'll buy me health care
2-He's lees like Bush than McCain is
3-I just really like the guy
4-I have a crush on him
5-I think it will heal racial wounds..

or so on...

But none of this, its just the "fight firemen-not fires" mentality that scares me.

Brent said...

Some of my favorite quotes from the comments above:

"How does John McCains hiring Richard Quinn have anything to do with Obama VERY MUCH supporting and defending:
1-Racists
2-Vicious anti-semites
3-Apostate Black-power Churches
4-Unrepentant terrorists who blew up people in the streets..."

Vicit, maybe you should grab a history book and find out what the confederates stood for.

"I also loved your blog post showing how far down the road toward nazism and communism we are going.... Obama or Hillary will take us even farther down that road..."

That's it. Obama and Clinton are Nazi Communists out to destroy the country (never mind that those are two completely different ends of the political spectrum).

"I am further ASTOUNDED at how intellectually honest liberals could possibly dismiss the VERY THINGS THIS GUY SAYS, DOES, AND folks he ASSOCIATES WITH!"

This astounds you, but you're quick to dismiss McCain's associations with a Confederate sympathizer who you "assume" he has renounced, and you don't see any hypocrisy here? My information about McCain's association with Quinn was more to show that every politician has connections with people we might prefer they didn't. But you criticize Obama for this every chance you get and excuse McCain. I'm ASTOUNDED!

"You are liars and you show who you belong to when you are utterly consumed and absorbed by lies."

Now you've got me curious. Just who do I belong to?

vicit said...

Uh, Here's the point:

ITS A MATTER OF PROPORTION.

Its soooo astonishly arrogant to suggest that I learn about the Confederates... of course I know.

Here's why the two are not comparable:
1-No one here supports McCain
2-No one here is claiming its not a problem
3-No one here was even bringing McCain up.

If you cannot tell the difference between:

A guy who hired 1 racist 8 years ago.

VS

A guy who openly calls a radical unrepentant racist his "mentor", attend the guys Church for 20 years, and contributed over $27,000 to that hate Church.
AND OPENLY associates and joins forces with a terrorist who planted bombs to kill people, and waished he'd killed more, AND said he would prefer to kill his grandchild in the womb. And a man who called his Grandmother a "typical white woman" and wanted to punch his "white friend in the stomach" for merely empathizing with him... the level of degrees of DIRECT participation, DIRECT association, and DIRECT verbalizaton are staggering.

OKAY... IF YOU CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN PROPORTION THEN I HAVE NO WAY TO CHARACTERIZE YOUR INTELLECTUAL DEFICIENCIES THAT WOULD BE CIVIL...

I would LOVE it if my poilitical opponents could have 1 shred of intellectual honesty, NOPE, I would love it if my political opponents could have 1 shred of honor, and dangit, IF THIS WERE JUST A BATTLE OF 2 OPPOSING IDEAS, I'D BE IN FRIGGIN HEAVEN, but what can I do when you can't convince a fish he's wet, or convince the ant that the mountain is bigger than his ant hill? Its just cheap nonsense, like Andy Kaufman humor... if thats the game here, fine, yes (ha, ha, knee-slap) you are a comic genius, stop pretending to have a point.

vicit said...

Oh and by the way... Its interesting that you drew the inferences about Obama and Hillary... All I did was list the excerpts from the NAZI parties platform as enumerated by Hitler himself.

I was careful in double starred and bold caps to note that I wasn't "drawing any inference to any political party in the USA"... I gave the info, and asked a very legitimate question...

But now that you mention it, yeah, based on the strange new indoctrination that seems to have gone on into a new "collectivist mentality" and a new brainwashing of youth into the new apostate "religion of the state" (i.e. any problem or unpleasantness in life no matter big or small, the solution must be a governmental one") I think we're headed there again, yes. This is one of those ways where I pretty sure I'm right based on history, but being right sucks in this case.

Its a bit despairing to watch 51% of us commit the suicide of all of us.

Brent said...

"Its soooo astonishly arrogant to suggest that I learn about the Confederates... of course I know."

I was being sarcastic to make a point.

"If you cannot tell the difference between:

A guy who hired 1 racist 8 years ago.

VS..."

McCain is still employing Quinn in his campagin to this day. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/05/
AR2008040502222.html?nav=rss_
politics)

I don't even know how to begin to respond to the rest of what you wrote (other than to point out that much of your statements take quotes out of context, but you've obviously made up your mind about those already anyway). I understand where everyone else who comments on this site comes from, even if I disagree with them. But you seem to have some kind of deep anger that I don't understand, judging not only by what you say, but also by the extreme language (I'm still waiting to find out who I belong to) and the somewhat rambling and screaming (in Internet speak) nature of your comments. Last time you got offended when I pointed this out, and I really don't mean this as a personal attack. I just don't know how to converse with you, so I will most likely not attempt to again. I'm sure you'll respond with more anger, which is fine.

L'oiseau said...

Brent,

He's a Ron Paul supporter. Nuff said. Might as well leave well enough alone ;)