Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Obama's church

Barack Obama gave a great speech today about his pastor and church. Unfortunately, he did not deal with one of the core issues. Can you imagine if John McCain had spent 20 years in a church whose website said,

“We are a congregation which is Unashamedly [White] and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the [White] religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a [European] people, and remain "true to our native land,"… We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a [White] worship service and ministries which address the [White] Community” (Trinity United Church of Christ).

Every person in America (except possibly members of the KKK and other White Supremacist groups) would immediately recognize this as thoroughly racist and repugnant, and McCain would be out of the race.

But replace the words “white” with “black,” and the word “European” with “African” and you have the statement on Barack Obama’s church website describing “About Us.”

But there’s more. Imagine the reaction if McCain’s church had a “[White] Value System” which included:

Commitment to the [White] Community
Commitment to the [White] Family
Adherence to the [White] Work Ethic
Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the [White] community (Tucc)

Again, everyone would immediately recognize and condemn such statements as disgustingly racist. But replace the words in brackets with “black” and you have the “Black Value System” promoted by Barack Obama’s church for over 20 years (since 1981)!

If it would be racist with the words “white,” it is racist with the words “black.” Note that these statements are not isolated, off the cuff, remarks by an emotionally charged preacher. They are essential, core values of what Obama’s church is, and has been for over 20 years.

If it would have been wrong for McCain to be part of a "white values" church, why is it be OK for Obama to be part of a "black values" church? And shouldn't churches be promoting "biblical values" which demonstrate and emphasize the love of Christ to all people regardless of skin color, race or national origin?


jazzycat said...

The double standard of the main stream media has once again been exposed in this whole matter! It has been disgusting because as you say any Republican would have been forced to resign. The MSM would have exposed the entire story about 15 minutes after any Republican announced for president.

Dennis said...

You're absolutely right! It is amazing how some people actually believe the MSM is objective!

Brent said...

I agree, I don't know how anyone could think the media is objective either. Can you imagine how crazy they'd be going if Clinton or Obama had repeatedly made a "mistake" like this?!!

Tony said...

Afraid I disagree somewhat. Things change when you are a minority rather than a majority. Here in UK, for example, both the Welsh and Scottish nations have been, historically, under the thumb of England, and often exploited and badly treated. It is appropriate for them to express nationalistic sentiments which would really sound most inappropriate if uttered by the majority English population.

You cannot take history out of the context.

Best wishes


Dennis said...

Tony, I think you make a good point, but on the other hand, Martin Luther King expressed the desire that his children would grow up in a nation in which people would be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

I don't think we get there with anti-white or anti-black rants, regardless of how well meaning or even justified some, like Rev. Wright, may think them to be.

jazzycat said...

What you are suggesting is the classic excuse making of an enabler! It is a very destructive thing for the very people that it makes excuses for and I for one reject it totally. America is a land full of opportunity and possibility and everyone should be encouraged to proceed full speed ahead without dwelling on and whinning about past injustices.

If Rev. Wright would encourage his congregation to take advantage of our free capitalistic economic system instead of promoting the marxist black liberation theology, then his congregation and America would be a lot better off. Replace the word theology with propaganda and you would have a much more accurate description of his message.

terri said...

Do you know why you don't have to inject white into the statements? Because America is ALREADY committed to the white community. Please, spare the stupid comments. Obama has the right to go to church where he wants to, and he could still be the President. Rev. Wright is a man of God, and anyone who thinks differently. All of the hate is just because Pastor told the truth, and white America does not want to come to grips with it's ugly, racist past. Rev. Wright has been preaching the same thing for 36 years. Why all of the attention now. Obama is only one of 8,000 members, many who are judges, lawyers, teachers, and other professionals. All of these people are not crazy or racist, you are.

Dennis said...

Terri wrote, “Because America is already committed to the white community.”

Excuse me, Terri, but if America is so committed to “the white community” why is Obama the forerunner in this election? I would think that if America were so committed to “the white community,” Obama wouldn’t have a chance. The fact that he’s doing so well is because the vast majority of white Americans really don’t care what color someone’s skin is.

Terri wrote, “Obama has the right to go to church where he wants to, and he could still be the President.”

No one is saying that Obama doesn’t have the right to go to whatever church he wants to. We are wondering why he has chosen to go to a racist church for 20 years!

Many of us are against racism—whether it is racism against blacks, or against whites or against Asians or against Indians or against Hispanics etc. Racism is racism. People who are only against racism when it is against their group—are racists.

Terri wrote, “All of the hate is just because Pastor told the truth, and white America does not want to come to grips with it's ugly, racist past.”

So what exactly does that mean, “come to grips with it’s ugly, racists past.” I personally don’t know a single white person who thinks positively about America’s slavery.

Every white person I know thinks the enslavement of black people was an absolute horrible abomination!

What exactly is it that you want us to do about it? Every application I’ve ever filled out in the last 30 years has made it clear that if anyone other than a white male applied for the job I was applying for, they would get preference over me if we were similarly qualified. What else do you want?

The fact is that my family never owned slaves. My family was still in Norway when slavery was going on in America. That is true of millions of Americans today. For you to look at someone with white skin and automatically assume that their families had something to do with slavery is simply racist!

Terri wrote, “Rev. Wright has been preaching the same thing for 36 years.”

Precisely! And this is exactly why many of us are wondering why Obama remained under such racist preaching for so long.