Tuesday, February 19, 2008

Obama, not proud of America

In a recent speech, Michelle Obama said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime I'm proud of my country."

Does Barack share that opinion? Will he come out and strongly denounce his wife's shameful unpatriotic, anti-Americanism? Do you really want a President whose wife has never before been proud of her country?

10 comments:

L'oiseau said...

Pride in one's country and loyalty to one's country are two different things. You show that with every post you write.

I don't think Michelle Obama's statements can be termed un-patriotic.

Brent said...

You owe it to your readers to provide the entire quote, in context:

"What we've learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback and let me tell you something, for the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud. And I feel privileged to be a part of even witnessing this, traveling around states all over this country and being reminded that there is more that unites us than divides us..."

Robert said...

So basically, Michelle had nothing to be proud of regarding our country UNTIL people decided to change (change into what I'll ask). She had to travel and see what her husband’s campaign was doing to make her "proud" but up until then she's been frustrated and disappointed. That is the epitome of what I believe leftists like her demonstrate; utter arrogance, a spoiled nature, selfishness, and partisan blinders.

I can't honestly entertain that someone running for the Whitehouse would believe that tripe she just spewed. However, considering the candidates (Republican and Democrat), I suppose I shouldn't have expected anything more. I certainly don't expect the Obama-kins to recognize that their candidate is playing the same game all politicians play. I don’t expect them to realize that Obama is an empty suit. I certainly don’t expect them to recognize that Michelle, in this case, must be one of the most ignorant, educated persons ever to hope to live in the whitehouse.

Dennis said...

Brent,

The "really proud" is a later attempt at damage control. I heard her original speech. She said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime I'm proud of my country."

l'oiseau,I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think when someone can't find a single thing to be proud of in America over the last (however old Ms. Obama is) it IS unpatriotic.

I agree with Robert's observation when he wrote: "So basically, Michelle had nothing to be proud of regarding our country UNTIL people decided to change..."

Wait a minute. Bill Clinton's theme song was "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow!" He was all about dropping the past and implementing change for the future.

And like him or not, Bill Clinton brought change. Barack Obama hasn't done anything but talk. For Michelle Obama to say that for the first time in her life she is proud of her country just because Barack is promising change, is as empty and meaningless and 90% of Barack's speeches! But it is also terribly unpatriotic and even anti-Amnerican!

L'oiseau said...

Here's a great quote on the subject:

Barack Obama's campaign issued this statement on the flap: "Of course Michelle is proud of her country, which is why she and Barack talk constantly about how their story wouldn’t be possible in any other nation on Earth. What she meant is that she’s really proud at this moment because for the first time in a long time, thousands of Americans who’ve never participated in politics before are coming out in record numbers to build a grassroots movement for change."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/michelle-obama.html

I think that Michelle worded what she was trying to say in the wrong way, but anyone who believes that she actually has not been proud of anything in America is just looking for dirt.

Dennis said...

l'oiseau, it is certainly possible that Michelle Obama just mis-spoke. Anyone who has ever spoken in public knows that's always a danger. Of course when Republicans do it, it sometimes costs them their jobs (e.g. Trent Lott).

Another possiblity is that the Obama spin machine went into action in a desperate attempt to gloss over a potential media disaster.

Michelle said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime I'm proud of my country."

Obama's campaign says, "Of course Michelle is proud of her country..."

Personally, I think I believe Michelle.

Robert said...

As I said, it's totally expected that Obama supporters would brush this under the rug as nothing important. This was not an off the cuff remark or a sudden slip of the tongue in front of a camera. It wasn’t an “off microphone gotcha” either. These were prepared words she gave in a speech. She didn’t say she was proud of the change in politics. She didn’t say she was just proud of the people who were entering the political fray for the first time. She went out of her way to say that this was the first time in her adult lifetime that she was proud of her country.

Her friends in the media and the campaign can try to spin it however they like, but trying to insert words into a prepared speech to soften the implications of the statement is the same old politics we’ve seen since the start. Obama is no different than any other politician, he’s just talented in making you feel good about it.

Brent said...

This is one of those things that people will read to fit whatever they already believe. But do I believe that she literally has never been proud of anything in this country? No. She and her husband are greatly successful, and at a relatively young age. Do I believe it's reasonable that an African-American woman would have reason to be cynical about some aspects of American politics? Absolutely.

Robert said...

Brent -

If that was the way she felt, why didn't she say that? What she said wasn't rushed or said under some sort of duress. She said what she said in prepared comments which leads me to believe she meant them. She’s free to think what she wants, but I think her comments show an amazing callousness for all the achievements this country has put forth. It’s just now when she is realizing that there are political ramifications for those comments that she’s backpedaling. But I guess I have to agree with you, people are going to read into this what they want. If people want to believe the spin being placed on it now, be my guest.

L'oiseau said...

Robert,

In the context of Michelle's speech, when she said the phrase in question she was REFERRING to the hope that Barack's campaign has raised. She was saying she has never seen this kind of hope in our country before and she's proud of it.

This is not a "different interpretations" moment.