Monday, February 25, 2008

Liberal insanity

Yesterday I posted on a new book called, The Liberal Mind; the Psychological Causes of Political Madness. I was reminded of this book as I was listening to the Michael Medved radio talk show on the way home from work today.

One of the listeners who called in began (in all seriousness) ranting about how Bush was the great Hitler, and how Hamas, Hezbollah and al Qaeda were not terrorist organizations but that Bush and America are the terrorists.

He continued ranting about how Bush was responsible for 911, and how Bush killed everyone in Iraq and Oklahoma (the caller was blaming McVeigh's terrorism on Bush but he actually said Bush killed everyone in Oklahoma)!

It is perfectly legitimate for the Left to disagree with President Bush and American policies (Even I disagree with many of Bush's policies), but when someone like this idiot caller says, in all seriousness, that Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Qaeda are not terrorist organizations, but that Bush and America are the terrorists, or when he compares Bush to Hitler--that is not just irrational, it is insanity!

Of course not all Leftists are like this caller, but unfortunately there seems to be a significant number who are! For example, when MSNBC's Keith Oberman said Fox News was worse than Al Qaeda. Or when John Murtha, before the facts were known, compared the Haditha incident with the My Lai massacre! Or the "General Betray Us advertisement. Or when a Leftist judge declared that an animal is no different than a child. Or when CODEPINK supplied hundreds of thousands of dollars to terrorists! Or when Rosie O'Donnel compared conservative Christians to Islamic terrorists and her audience irrupted in applause!

There are also many on the Left who genuinely seem to think that 911 was an inside job. And the caller is certanly not the only Leftist who has compared President Bush to Adolf Hitler!

Is it really any wonder why some of us might think that many on the Left are not playing with a full deck? The real mystery is why the more sane Left doesn’t distance themselves from these loonies.

7 comments:

Brent said...

Glenn Beck has said:
• “I listened to him last night give a speech, and, I mean, why not just start wearing the Soviet star on your head and the Workers World Party?” (about John Edwards)
• "I think there is [sic] a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today." (regarding the California fires)
• “How do we know the difference between you and those that are trying to kill us?" (to a Muslim guest on his show)
• “I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?”
• “You have to have an enemy to fight, and when you have an enemy to fight, then you can unite the entire world behind you and you seize power. That was Hitler's plan. His enemy: the Jew. Al Gore's enemy, the U.N. enemy: global warming.”

Ann Coulter has said:
• “In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about whether he "did it," even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate.” (about Bill Clinton)
• “Oh, and I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards. But it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word "faggot," so I'm -- so I'm kind of at an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards.”
• “I don't think there's anything offensive about any variation of faggy, faggotry, faggot, fag.”
• “I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." (about 9/11 widows)

Michael Savage has said:
• "You're not supposed to talk badly about the dead. I generally wouldn't do it. But in the case of Tom Lantos, I'll make an exception. I think he was one of the most -- he was a scoundrel. And I'll tell you why I detested Tom Lantos. The man survived the Holocaust of World War II and used it as a weapon the rest of his life."
• “[W]hen I see a woman walking around with a burqa, I see a Nazi…. She's doing it to spit in your face. She's saying, 'You white moron, you, I'm going to kill you if I can.'”

Bill O’Reilly has said:
• "I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels.
• “[I] couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.'"
• "Most Americans don't want to hurt any poor Mexican people. They want to know who they are. They want to know where they are, what they're doing. They don't want them clustering in neighborhoods and changing the whole tempo of the neighborhood."
• “[The Daily Kos is] like the Ku Klux Klan. It's like the Nazi party.”

Now, not all rightists are like Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage and Bill O'Reilly. But is it really any wonder why some of us might think that many on the right are not playing with a full deck? The real mystery is why the more sane right doesn’t distance themselves from these loonies.

Dennis said...

Brent,

First, what kind of response is this? Do you think that because you can find some over-the-line right wing quotes that this somehow justifies equating the President of the United States with Adolf Hitler or sending thousands of dollars to terrorists?

Second, I'm sure it will shock you to discover that I agree with you that there are many over-the-line right wing loonies! For example, It boggles my mind that Michael Savage still has a radio show and it is scary that he has a following! I suspect that most conservative talk show hosts feel the same way.

Nor am I a fan of Glenn Beck. I especially think his statement about killing Michael Moore should have been enough to get him fired (and maybe investigated)!

I don't really like Bill O'Reilly either but I know you are taking his comments about Sylvia's resturant out of context so that makes me wonder about all the other quotes you've listed as well.

But as much as I disagree and even despise many of the guotes you've listed, I don't think any of them come close to comparing the President of the United States to Adolf Hitler or to sending thousands of dollars to terrorists!

But, I've distanced myself from some on the far right. I noticed that you didn't distance yourself from ANY of the people or ideas I listed. Why is that?

Brent said...

"Do you think that because you can find some over-the-line right wing quotes that this somehow justifies equating the President of the United States with Adolf Hitler"

The quotes I selected compared a Senator/Presidential candidate to communists, Al Gore to the Nazis, raised the issue of assassinating a President, among other things. (They are all documented quotes - look them up for yourself if you think I just made them up.)

My point is this: there are "loonies" (as you call them) all over the political spectrum. I find the left-wing quotes that you provided to be ridiculous as well. But if we all spent time disavowing comments that we disagree with, that's all we'd do. Why can't we just focus on putting forth the ideas we believe are best, rather than implying that all of our political opponents agree with outlandish rhetoric just because those speakers claim to identify with their same political party?

"I know you are taking his comments about Sylvia's resturant out of context so that makes me wonder about all the other quotes you've listed as well."

Well, I know that a lot of the sources and theories you cite on your Blog have been discredited as well, so it makes me wonder about pretty much everything you post. Please see the rebuttal that L'oiseau posted to your "Obama gay sex and drugs" post and the link I provided showing that this Sinclair guy failed a polygraph test. When will you admit, with a new post to the blog, that the information you posted was a blatant lie?

L'oiseau said...

This is just silliness.

There are crazies on all sides.

Period.

Dennis said...

Brent wrote, "Please see the rebuttal that L'oiseau posted to your "Obama gay sex and drugs" post and the link I provided showing that this Sinclair guy failed a polygraph test. When will you admit, with a new post to the blog, that the information you posted was a blatant lie?"

As I responded elsewhere, I printed an "Update" on the front page of that post saying that Sinclair had failed the polygraph and I posted it before either you or l'oiseau pointed this out.

Besides, I never said the story was true, just that it deserved to be investigated. Just because a story is sleezy does not mean is is a lie. Some pretty sleezy allegations were made about Bill Clinton that turned out to be true!

But apparently you don't want sleezy allegations investigated, especially if the allegations are against Democrats.

Brent said...

"Besides, I never said the story was true, just that it deserved to be investigated."

Yes, you run your blog in a convenient way. You repeat the most salacious rumors and innuendo that you can find, and when it's proven wrong you can say you were just repeating what you heard. Which might almost be fine if you weren't so adamant that there was something to it, and if you hadn't ridiculed those of us who were skeptical.

"But apparently you don't want sleezy allegations investigated, especially if the allegations are against Democrats."

You're right - some things are just too ridiculous to waste time on (such as a presidential candidate having gay sex with a mental patient who has a history of making false claims). And if you'll recall, I expressed skepticism about the McCain story as well. I'm sick of sleazy politics, regardless of who they're aimed at.

Anonymous said...

I had to chime in here.

"Yes, you run your blog in a convenient way. You repeat the most salacious rumors and innuendo that you can find, and when it's proven wrong you can say you were just repeating what you heard. Which might almost be fine if you weren't so adamant that there was something to it, and if you hadn't ridiculed those of us who were skeptical."

How is what he posted a "rumor" as you call it? The caller said what they said and that's that. Explain how it's a rumor. The fact is there are definite crazy people on the far-right, but there are far more on the left. I'm far from a hardcore conservative, but I have morals. When our own president votes against providing care for children as a result of a botched abortion, it's proof that the radicals have truly taken over. For God's sake, congress wants to throw Bush in jail for war crimes for the CIA interrogation techniques that they approved! The hypocrisy on the left is mind-boggling. Why not throw Clinton in jail for perjury for lying about his affair on the stand? Isn't that a crime?

"You're right - some things are just too ridiculous to waste time on (such as a presidential candidate having gay sex with a mental patient who has a history of making false claims)."

What are you talking about?