Saturday, November 25, 2006

Obsession: The Threat of Radical Islam

If you did not see, Obsession: the Threat of Radical Islam the first time it aired, PLEASE take time to watch it tonight. It is on the FOX News Channel (9:00PM EST/8:00 CST). Every American really needs to see this program.

5 comments:

Carolyn said...

I have seen a couple of the Obsession clips Fox News has shown, but until I bought the DVD and viewed the whole hour, did I see how they kept qualifying "radical" Islam" with death and destruction. Why must there be this back-pedalling of defining some Muslims as really bad and others that are "peaceful". It's ALL Islam and it's ALL bad! The members that don't know that just haven't read their Koran in the orginal Arabic or refuse to acknowledge the verses about "slaying" and "killing" of infidels.

The movie Obsession does do a good job of making the Nazis/Muslim connection.

As a member of a small group in northern CA, who is challenging the inordinate(6 chapters)teaching of Islam to 7th graders, we were going to have a local showing of the truth about Islam, using the Obsession movie. We decided to use "Islam- What the West Needs to Know " instead.

Dennis said...

Carolyn,

Thanks for your post. I think there are good, peaceful Muslims (the people) in the world, but I agree with you that the religion/ideology of Islam is rotten to the core.

I applaud you in your efforts to stop the teaching of Islam in public schools.

It absolutely boggles my mind that many educators who have fought for so long to keep every mention of Christianity out of public schools (using the pretense of "separation of church and state") are now trying to indoctrinate our kids in a white-washed version of a religion whose members are killing us!

I would almost bet my next paycheck that these shchols are not teaching the kids how Muhammad led battles to kill those who opposed him, or how he wiped out an entire Jewish tribe, or how he ordered the execution of people, mafia-style, or how he taught that men could beat their wives, or how he "married" a child who was six years old!

I'm curious, Carolyn--is the ACLU, People for the American Way, or Americans United for the Separation of Chuch and State taking up your cause?

Carolyn said...

American education has been on the skids for a long time. What you have in the teaching of history is the result of multicultural acceptance; West bad, East good.
With Islamic "counselors" in all textbook publishing houses making sure that his nation's children read only warm,fuzzy half-truths and outright lies, the "dhimmitude" of this nation is (almost) a foregone conclustion, if not outright annihilation. Hate to sound so pessimistic, but it does not look good.

After all, 7th graders today were only 8 when those planes exploded into the WTC. Unless their parents sat them down and told them the truth about Islam, they are ripe for indoctrination.

If you have had the "privilege" of reading these pathetic excuses for history, you will quickly see that their whole tack is to whitewash everything. From Mohammad to Islam's teachings, to Muslim "contribution", to the Crusades are all sanitized blather.

Since the students are in these chapters now, we will be rebutting the junk history they portray: page by page!

As to your last query; the silence is deafening.

Cristina said...

Carolyn and Dennis,
There are also good and peaceful Americans...And then there are the Americans that kill, rape, abuse children, KKK members...And so on.

Islam is a religion. There is such NO thing as radical Islam; There are radical muslims, a very different thing. Then again, we also have radical Christians, don't we.
We should not judge a person or a country based on their religion. I have read the Qur'an and the Bible, and they both have some very unpleasant chapters, some people take them literally, some don't.
Carolyn, I think it is not an intelligent idea to pay that DVD to show people how Muslims are. That DVD doesn't show all Muslims, it shows radicalism.
Also...What do you mean by: "Unless their parents sat them down and told them the truth about Islam"?
My brother was 6 years old when the planes hit. My parents and I didn't teach him to hate Muslims, we explained to him that there are Muslims and there are radical muslims, terrorists. You shouldn't teach your child hate.
You and Dennis are racists
You and your Islam/Qur'an ignorance are more dangerous than all the Muslims I know.

Dennis said...

Christina wrote: “Carolyn and Dennis, There are also good and peaceful Americans”

Of course there are peaceful Muslims Christina. I have made that point on this blog many times! But there were also good and peaceful Germans during the Nazi era. So what is your point?

The DVD entitled “Obsession” also acknowledges that there are peaceful Muslims (did you even see it?). Every time someone raises the issue of Jihadism someone inevitably responds by saying, “Wait, there are good and peaceful Muslims” as if somehow that negates all the warnings about the danger of radical Islam!

Christina wrote: “...And then there are the Americans that kill, rape, abuse children, KKK
members...And so on.”

So what is your point? Are you saying that there is no danger in Jihadism because there many Americans are criminals? Are you saying that we shouldn’t warn Americans about the danger Jihadism poses to the West because many Americans are criminals? What exactly is your point?

Christina wrote: “Islam is a religion. There is such NO thing as radical Islam; There are radical muslims, a very different thing.”

Actually, I agree with you on all three points:

First, Islam is a religion, as well as a way of life.

Second, technically, there is no such thing as radical Islam—The Jihadists are actually practicing a version of Islam much closer to that which was taught by Muhammad and his first followers (read Ibn Ishaq’s Life of Muhammad). Peaceful Muslims are following a drastically watered-down version (thank God!). Unfortunately, what we call "Radical Islam" IS real Islam!

Christina wrote: “Then again, we also have radical Christians, don't we.”

Excuse my bluntness, Christiana, but this statement is incredibly ignorant or hateful or both. This would be like trying to make some moral equivalence between Buddhism (which is a genuinely peaceful religion) and Radical Islam just because there are some violent Buddhists who have persecuted Christians in various places! A tiny, tiny handful of misguided radical Christians have blown up abortion clinics—usually when no one is in them—and the vast majority of Christians have soundly condemned them. You want to compare that to, oh, say, 9/11? Please! Give me a break!

Christina wrote: “We should not judge a person or a country based on their religion.”

Fair enough—let’s judge people based on their behavior.

Christina wrote: “I have read the Qur'an and the Bible, and they both have some very unpleasant chapters, some people take them literally, some don't.”

Have you read ALL of the Bible and Qur’an, Christina, or just bits and pieces? Your statement is a vast oversimplification of the facts. The Bible is a collection of numerous writings and genres. Some genres are intended to be taken more literally than others (for example, poetry and apocalyptic are not intended to be as literally as history or letters). You’re right about the Old Testament. Some of the most “unpleasant” passages involve the conquest of Palestine by Joshua apparently in judgment (ancient Palestinians did things like sending their daughters into religious prostitution and roasting their babies on the red hot arms of their idols). Since you don’t think the Bible is inspired by God, I certainly understand why you would not like, or agree with such politically incorrect ideas as the command to conquer Palestine. But one thing is sure—Jews never understood these commands as universal commands to kill all the infidels or to expand their empire into all the world. Neither do Evangelical Christians (nor do ANY Christians that I know of today). The Bible simply does not teach such a thing.

The Qur’an, on the other hand, does! Muhammad commanded his followers to kill the infidel and to wage Jihad—not JUST an inward struggle but all-out war—and to spread Islam peacefully if possible, but violently if necessary. While it is true that many Muslims spiritualize such passages and take them less “literally” (thank God!) it is really hard to imagine, after reading the earliest biography of Muhammad (regarded as semi-sacred by Muslims!) that Muhammad intended his teachings to be understood anything but literally!

Christina wrote: “Carolyn, I think it is not an intelligent idea to pay that DVD to show people how Muslims are. That DVD doesn't show all Muslims, it shows radicalism.”

So what are you saying Christina? Are you saying that we should not show a DVD that warns of the danger of Muslim radicalism? After all, the DVD explains that not all Muslims are radicals. The DVD says it is just addressing the radical element. So why should people not see it? To say that people should not see it is like telling people not to watch a TV special warning of gang violence because, after all, not everyone is a gang member!

Christina wrote: “You and Dennis are racists”

Why, because I warn of the danger of Jihadists? Jihadists come in many different racists, Christiana—they’re not all Arabs. So how is warning of the danger of Jihadism, racist?

Christina wrote: “You and your Islam/Qur'an ignorance are more dangerous than all the Muslims I know.”

Christina, I’ve read numerous books on Islam. I've read the Qur’an from cover to cover. I've read many of the Hadith and I’ve read Ibn Ishaq’s Life of Muhammad (over 600 pages). YOu accuse me of ignorace of Islam--have you read all this?

There are a billion Muslims in the world, Christina. That fact that you know some peaceful ones doesn't prove anything!